Ok, so it say upgrade the holding, but says I can't upgrade it because some previous putz put a castle in the lower holding. Hi My question is, what are the consequences (cons and maybe there are some pros) of having a a wrong holding type or a big demense? From what I know: Cons of having a big demense: - Problems with taxes? Cons of having a wrong holding type: -. A ruler's is an important part of their demesne. Fast forward a generation and the. If dynasty is in a weak position stockpile as much gold as possible for mercenaries and bribes. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. What exactly does this mean?Wrong settlement type [edit | edit source] Characters get a 75% penalty to income and levies in demesne settlements that do not match their government type. For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). makes sense. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. Fast forward a generation and the. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. I don't understand this. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. . . 700+. . What exactly does this mean?For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Then I noticed in my messages that this was "the wrong type of holding" for me, i. They are not the right type of holding. So holding the wrong holding type is almost never worth it. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Also, it can be a good idea to not grant too many holdings to one vassal. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. Tribals can raid and have concubines regardless of. 5: Tunis. . Fast forward a generation and the. These holdings provide both income and taxes, and every holding is held by a character. That means you are starting out with two titles, Petty King of Connachta, And Count of Connachta. Wrong Type of Holding in Demesne issue. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Despite assigning all baronies and bishoprics to courtiers I still. It's true, in the county I just took, the castle is held by a baron, while the city is held by me. Fast forward a generation and the. de·mesne (dĭ-mān′, -mēn′) n. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Holy stays at just 25. < 1 2 > Showing 1 - 15 of 26 comments Hurodrik Feb 17, 2016 @ 9:00am You are a feudal lord. 2. I don't understand this. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in mediæval Europe, Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. I have a warning message that the city and. And how I can change this. Provinces will have different Stability levels and the player will have a new concern in managing the stability of his/her demesne. give bonuses to entire realm, in CK2 they used to give bonus even if county was being held by vassal, I've found out by experiment that this is not the case in CK3, to get effects from special building you need to personally own not only the county, but the barony. Cities: Focus on tax. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Nomadism is also one of three playable non-feudal government types in CK2, the other two being merchant republics and tribalism. de·mesne (dĭ-mān′, -mēn′) n. makes sense. All but 1 are coastal. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. I. If you have the wrong holding type you take about 25% of the base income as income. types - castles, cities, temples or tribes. Generally speaking, castles are best. 18. What is the actual penalty for holding these?I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. Holdings have the following characteristics, which are modified by buildings: Characteristic. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. You can see it has a city as county capital but it's held by a duke (noble) so it's the wrong type of holding. All but 2 are coastal. Im a duke now and to make a merchant republic I have heard I need to be a king, im assuming the negative opinion modifier for wrong holding type will disappear then so putting that aside Id like to know how to make a bishop the head of a province. And how I can change this. What does it mean, and how do I fix it?Two other thing of note, Demesne size is counting the number of titles you hold, not the number of counties. Any help would be appreciated. . . I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Some governments can hold different types (patricians and the byzantine / roman imperial gov can hold castles and cities while Iqta can hold castles and temples). To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. #14. Any help would be appreciated. . . 8. Holy stays at just 25. . Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Mods. Each form of government has preferred and allowed settlements, and will get "Wrong government type" (-75% levies and income) penalty while holding other types of settlements directly. I hold Leicester as Earl. They are not the right type of holding. Hello friends, i was being as Poland then i have conquered the Pomeranian tribes to the north, but after that i have got "wrong type of holding" warning, and the holding in three provinces is been labeled as "recently conquered" modifier for wrong religion, culture etc, which usually expire in five years. It doesnt really help much though, its just a way to spend money. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. They are not the right type of holding. And how I can change this. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Hi all, I'm playing tribal in Ireland and I have just clicked the adopt feudalism button. . Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. But you can also see there is a castle in this county: Image 3. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. If you give it to a vasall you will get at least 45/50% or more percent of the base income. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. If a character owns an additional holding that is of a different type from this first holding, he or she will get the wrong holding type penalty on that holding. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. , I imprison/banish a mayor (as a king with one county), and take possession of his title. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. makes sense. Any help would be appreciated. . Not sure what to do with it. . Any help would be appreciated. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. 5 for a tribe, 4 for a castle, 8 for a temple, or 12. . but you still get the Renown benefits without having to waste Demesne space on holding the Temple directly. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. With high centralization you can hold a very large demesne. I don't know why. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. . Thank you. A large part of your income, especially in a small realm, comes from the personal holdings of your demesne . This limit is what forces rulers to distribute power to vassals rather than directly controlling their entire realm. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. The easiest way to do this is to click on a county that has the wrong types of holdings, right-click on the at holdings at the bottom of the county screen and select 'Create new vassal'. - Added Casus Belli type flags 'apply_short_occ_mod' and 'apply_short_occ_mod'. What is the actual penalty for holding these?Crusader Kings 2 Wrong Holder Type; Also found in: Thesaurus, Legal, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia. You're going to suffer from the 'Wrong government' opinion malus for that particular vassal, but it's still better than holding on to it yourself. makes sense. What is the actual penalty for holding these? I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Later you can use the character search to land people in your realm, usually nice same culture/religion people on the council of your vassals. Any help would be appreciated. I was playing as Matilda. So my count, which rules of two counties died. Cities: Focus on tax. 2 - 250 years. . Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne Ck2. Holy stays at just 25. Hello, I would like to know more about this game since i find it difficult than other strategies, some things i have learned in hard way and some i still can not. FAQ: Wrong Holding/Government Type. Demesne size can be increased by the cetralization law. It's true, in the county I just took, the castle is held by a baron, while the city is held by me. Now I have a tribe as the capital, rather than a castle. When I start having lots of money I build cities in every demesne county slot and help them get going with markets and ports. So you can have an entire province or a castle within it. Sometimes a city is so rich that it is worth keeping despite the penalty, but most of the time you will want to give away these wrong. My income in that province increased greatly. Any help would be appreciated. Barons are affected by feudal ta, mayors are. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". Jump to latest Follow Reply. Is there any was to change the county capital to a barony? Does it hurt me to hold a county that is the wrong type of holding?I per-ordered and have been playing the CK2 demo and I've run into a few issues I can't quite figure out. 23 total. And how I can change this. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. . Left-click on the "Explore Character Opinions" button. Wrong settlement type [edit | edit source]. No existing Merchant Republic can have trade posts in their demesne. Wrong type of holding in demesne. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. If the Khagan continues to hold onto too many counties, a minor clan can rise up in rebellion to force the Khagan to recognise it as a major clan. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. 25 coastal holdings/county. I have all of Ireland right now (I'm also King of Eire), and I took over Gwynedd from the Petty Kingdom of Gwynedd, but now I have the wrong holding type in my demesne for some reason. . . 'Wrong Type of Holding' = SO CONFUSED. . View entire discussion ( 17 comments) More posts from the CrusaderKings community Continue browsing in rCrusaderKings rCrusaderKings Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy RPG video game series for PC, Mac Linux developed published by Paradox Interactive. Hi, When winning a holy war for Toledo, I get 8 holdings too many under my demesne. 6: Normandy. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. - Added title history commands 'name', 'adjective', 'reset_name' and 'reset_adjective'. For the counties I usually go to the intrigue tab to recruit a noble/soldier/holy men. And how I can change this. Just now, I finished constructing a new city in the county where my ruler resides. 23 total. 700+ gold to build it, I'll make that up. And how I can change this. . . What is the actual penalty for holding these?For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Nomadism is also one of three playable non-feudal government types in CK2, the other two being merchant republics and tribalism. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. I revoked a the title of mayor of a main city of a holding from a vassal. If I select a vassal. Not sure of exact percentages but you get a lot less levy and gold from them. I got this message when I revoked the title of major of Sigtuna (a city) from an underling. Did all the tutorials and read some of the manual but not all. . So im still not understanding this right. 2. What exactly does this mean?Select the "Opinion" map mode (shortcut: D) Click a province in one ruler's demesne. And how I can change this. I don't understand this. “Wrong type of Holding in demesne” I am really new to crusader king2 and just got it today I think I am playing as Romania or severin/timas I was… What penalties, if any, are there for a wrong holding type? E. Last edited by Nea's Nose ; Mar 17, 2021 @ 8:18pm. Jun 18, 2015 at 5:20. And how I can change this. The three holdings in question were 2 cities and a bishopric that I had. I hold Leicester as Earl. This law will determin how your realm will be organized: tall or wide. NapoleonI. By My Name in forum Video Games Replies: 6 Last Post: 07-02-2012, 06:52 PM "DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response. So I was playing the demo earlier and an 'alert button' popped up saying that a few of my provinces were the wrong type of holding in my demesne. They can become powerful and rebel. Oh, be a jerk to the emperor, guess you're going to go camping. Crusader Kings III. 3 coastal holdings/county. makes sense. Thank you. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. I gave away the bishopric that I took over, but I still have it and it says that the Chiefdom of Gwynedd is the wrong holding type for me. Why is it bad to govern cities directly? I am guessing it is bad since I got the message warning me. . 700+. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Barons are the titleholders for baronies, mayors for cities, and bishops for bishoprics. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Got replaced by the heir that had a city as landed title. . Hover over the other ruler's demesne. Dec 30, 2020 — Category: Ck2 tribal vs feudal. Fast forward a generation and the. I'm playing a small count in Germany (Altmark), and after acquiring Mecklenburg from the pagans I am faced with various problems. The first warning you mention about wrong holding type in demense occurs when the player holds a title incompatible with either the game itself (you can't only be a baron, bishop, or burgher as the player and receive penalty for directly holding them) or incompatible with their government type such as a tribal having feudal holdings and vice. 19 coastal. Thank you. Ok so I'm completely new to CK2, never played the original. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Empty holding slots in demesne provinces serve as grazing grounds for the nomadic population and armies. Step3: Give away the. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. I don't understand this. Anyways, I'm playing my first game as the Ua Briain dynasty in Ireland. Wrong Type of Holding When I click on my capital, it no longer has the options to build anything and when i look at the intrigue panel again, it still says adopt feudalism but now. A. I have this and I dont know how to fix it. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. makes sense. . I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. If Hindu, be sure to match the character's caste with the holding type. "Wrong type of holding" refers to you directly holding a city or bishopric. CK2 noob here. What is the actual penalty for holding these?Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. A holding will receive pretty significant tax and levy penalties with the wrong type of ruler. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. (Added 1. Thank you. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". e. Being a republic unlocks the convert to city decision for you, which creates a holding of each type in the chosen province (if a temple already exists it will not be created). So here's a look at the county of Venezia: Image 2. If a character is of the wrong caste, they cannot be granted the holding. I don't know why it's there because I have other chiefdoms and those. 700+. 5 - 114 years. . Created the petty kingdom of Tara, I hold 3 pieces of land. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Step1: Get your hands on one of the castles (Depending on your Governmenttype it might also be a city or a tribe, but in this case you are feudal so you may only hold castles personally) Step2: Right click on it and choose "Make county capital". So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Such holdings may either be counties or baronies. The best ways to do this is to either simply revoke the baron's title (which WILL give you an opinion hit from all your other vassals, but is often still the simpler of. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. So, I'm the king of England. Now when I take a friend of mine from my court and attempt to grant him the county, he does not become a mayor. . I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne Ck2 Mac Linux Developed. . In general when you get the "Wrong Type of Holding" notification you should try and. Thanks in advance. What is the actual penalty for holding these?Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. A Screenshot of Crusader Kings III. I don't understand this. They are not the right type of holding. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. I revoked a the title of mayor of a main city of a holding from a vassal. 1) When a vassal rebels and you win and throw him in the dungeon noticed. Any help would be appreciated. I don't understand this. Slows down sieges and resists raiding. Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. Crusader Kings 2 Taxes, Levy and Laws Taxes There are 3 types of holdings in CK2: Castles are owned by feudal lords Churches are owned by bishops Cities are owned by mayors You are a feudal lord so having a city or a church in your demesne is considered having a wrong type of holding and you get 25% penalty to the holding's base income. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. 21 coastal. 9/8/2023. This has been asked before, but how do you get rid of this problem? I built a new town in one of my holds and want to own it - but the problem is, to…For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Tribals can raid and have concubines. . Since only top holdings count towards vassal limit, it'd probably be more to be much more to be gained from only holding the top holding in terms of money, especially if there is more than one city. Holding Income = (Base Income + Building Income) x (1 + Local Income Modifiers) x (1 + Owner Income Modifiers) The Base Holding Income is the sum of: the Base Income of the holding: 0. Currently, CK3 uses the same three holding types (for non-tribal areas) as CK2 did: castles, cities and temples, which are tied to monarchical, republican and theocratic governments respectively. . Hi all, I'm playing tribal in Ireland and I have just clicked the adopt feudalism button. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. You lose 75% of the. 3/1/2023 0 Comments The Earth Hillfort in this holding is already Level I so will “only” take three more upgrades to become. I was playing as. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. For example, whenever you propose peace to. . How to deal with this issue? 2) Title loss on Succession ( 2 duchies and 1 city which was already granted. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. So, I'm the king of England. makes sense. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. New posts All threads Latest threads New posts Trending threads. You get a massive tax penalty but you still make some money and get a bigger levy. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. A ruler's demesne limit is based on tier, personal and spouse stewardship, succession type, and centralization law. These control whether or not the 'Recently Conquered' and 'New Administration' holding modifiers are set on victory. I'm wondering what the best way to divide these domains would be; is the following (about) correct?: * Cities: Hand these out to (non-Bishop) vassals that are. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. So I was playing the demo earlier and an 'alert button' popped up saying that a few of my provinces were the wrong type of holding in my demesne. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. A castle holding uses one of your holdings the same way a county capital does. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. makes sense. Feb 21, 2012. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. . I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. top of page. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. I don't understand this. . Just give the county to some nobody that shares your religion and culture and isn't ambitious!! And how I can change this. Tax Percentage is set by liege law. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. This limit is what forces rulers to distribute power to vassals rather than directly controlling their entire realm. Latest. The problem is of course that this isn't the county capital. And how I can change this. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash.